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I hate writing journals like the one, but it's necessary to stop myself repeating comments all over the place. (Also writing this on my iPhone so bear with me!)

Joining a community is part of getting a sense of identity. You want to belong and be defined by the community you associate yourself with (even if you pretend you don't). You want to have a voice in the community and a sense of control too. When that doesn't go your way, sometimes the community you want to feel part of becomes jaded. You question it and wonder why you bother- why you even care? 

There's been a few posts of late, some comments and grumbles of unhappiness in the literature community. As a CV, I feel very accountable for that. I've felt those frustrations too- and I think about what needs to be done to unravel those frustration, is maybe think about our own behaviours and motivations. Why are we doing what we actively think is the thing we need to do? Can you realistically change things? Do you have to re-invent the wheel to "make a difference"?

Accountability is a bit of a business buzz word, but it's one that I use frequently because of the sense of ownership it comes with. In my opinion, every individual is accountable for their experience on here and if things are not working, stop blaming others! We're all vastly different, over opinionated, sometimes hypersensitive artists who come from all different backgrounds, education, religions and cultures- not everything works in one neat ring fence- this is why 'community' is such a broad term.

However, it's what holds is together that makes the community- the common love we all feel passionate about in some form- that's Art. That's why you joined dA in the first place and that's why you haven't left.

And it's the small things that glue is together. It's comments, critique, chats, feedback, participation- getting "involved" to whatever level you feel necessary. Its not always about grand gestures or projects- worryingly it feels people seem to think it is. I think I have said these things before, they never change. 

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So we're getting close to christmas and all the holiday joy that even if you celebrate another winter festival can get a sense of warm fuzzy from- instead of grumpling about what isn't working (though feel free to ramble like I just did)- answer me this... what do you LOVE you the community? I don't just mean the literature community, but what gives you that sense of belonging on dA? 





Bit of a ramble on community.
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thetaoofchaos Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014   Writer
To me, community is essentially nothing more than a feeling of belonging to a group. I struggle with this feeling as much as anyone.  But I have always felt it was my responsibility to address any issue with my own state of mind. If people are actually complaining that they don't see external evidence of community among the literature deviants, then I would say they haven't looked in the right places yet.  In my estimation, there is more lit community involvement going on now than I have ever experienced in my close to 7 years on the site.  It's just like anything: you get out what you put in.  Waiting around for someone to scoop you up and whisk you away into the arms of like minded friends is not a viable strategy for joining the community.  I can say this from experience. 

What first gave me a sense of belonging to any sort of lit community was when I discovered :icondailylitdeviations: years ago, back before there were dA groups. I saw the selfless act of featuring writers and folding them and readers under this umbrella of sharing and support as evidence of a thriving community.  And that's what inspired meto give back to said community. 
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herebewonder Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
As someone new to dA and extremely new to the Lit corners of dA, this little post helped me feel a little better about how overwhelmed I was feeling.

dA is...not the easiest place to get your head around. I'm still trying to figure out how to get involved, how to join, and what some of the little pretty buttons do.

I may not know what the heck I"m doing still, but I feel a little less anxious about it.

Thx!

-c
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DAnnsCreations Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Thank-you Becca! :squee:  :iconlovepurpleplz:  :squee:  This is the place I come when my World is just too intense to deal with, you are my therapy, so to speak, and honestly, I love each and every person I've met here!  Don't care where you are from or if you are a dreaded Republican :rofl::rofl::rofl:  but that you love your Art as much as I love art!  I never really noticed the grumbles, but if they are there, well ... for me ... this is home, where my Family lives even with the grumblez! :blowkiss: So Thank-you Becca for expressing your love for our Community!  :icongivemesmilesplz: :love: :iconlovehug:

Blessings of Love to you all!  :D
Pegs
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MidnightExigent Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well put. I always felt much the same way.
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
:nod: Felt is a bit ranty, but there's been an arising of posts about the "community" in literature of late- positive and negative and I wanted to put my point out there!
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MidnightExigent Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gotta air your real thoughts and feelings and emotions sometimes, nothing wrong with that. :D
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ShadowedAcolyte Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
`LiliWrites gives me that sense of belonging. She's awesome.
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Redbull glomp D'awww. You're much too sweet. :heart: 
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
That she is!  :D
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
You (the t-rex) can't blame the t-rex (itself) for something it biologically can't do. Then it can blame others. Or there will be so many 'Help With Life' threads about that or Complaints threads. I wanted to go "lol @ the t-rex, seen it before" but then felt sad for it. It's like how one sometimes laughs at others falling/slipping down on the road but then they go "oof..are you alright? Here let me help"

Blaming oneself also doesn't cut it always. And other times it works wonders. That middle ground has to be reached.

The show Community describes dA's community.
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
Rexy tried to post in help with life, but his arms are too short to type so he used his head. It got removed as someone thought it was spam.
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
Should have asked his friend, stegosaurus. 
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013   Writer
He is too stubborn :)
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DrippingWords Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
"We're all vastly different, over opinionated, sometimes hypersensitive artists who come from all different backgrounds, education, religions and cultures- not everything works in one neat ring fence- this is why 'community' is such a broad term."

I agree with this, but I also think that's why we're a community; because we're all SO different but have something very much in common; our love and passion for what we do.
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
Of course, difference is what makes people interesting :bucktooth:
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DrippingWords Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:nod:
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ginkgografix Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
I simply love the fact that you get to know new things all the time. dA had so much influence on what i do and how i do it. Directly and indirectly and that is just awesome.

While i ususally stay within my preferred medium and rarely reach out for other galleries/groups/people, CVness always made me get into contact with strangers. All those lit and photo people for example. Chances i would have interacted with you without the heart/hat are really really low. And with all those influences it's just a great experience that makes you grow stronger as an artist and as a person.
With all the friends, real life or just dA, i just feel like there is a place where people love me and accept me with what i like to do. No one questions here why i do get excited over glitter, like to craft silly plywood things or do other random things.

And yes i totally agree with the "what you give will be returned" thing. Even though i am one of those that like(d) to blame others as well. Because sometimes it can be tricky to put much effort into things without seeing results.


Babbling over! Not sure if it makes sense :heart: :hug:
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
No it makes perfect fairyland sense (curse you fairy glitter!). 

What I love about dA is it is always challenging you to think differently about your artwork. In a way, I'd rather be challenged and critiqued than have hundreds of people just blanket loving my work (Though I am sue it is very nice too!), its good that even 8 years on the site, you can still grow.
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ginkgografix Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
awwww. Hope it was not too bad! :blush: :hug:

Yes, totally agree. If you want to improve it is always nice to know that people highlight the good things but also mention things you should work on or do in a different way the next time.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
every individual is accountable for their experience on here and if things are not working, stop blaming others!

this x infinity

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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
And stop blaming raspil! :shakefish:
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013   Writer
it's easier to do that because i am the community asshole
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013   Writer
I wouldn't consider you that, I'd consider you someone willing to challenge others- how people take that is their own problem, but being challenged is about changing how you think and if they don't see that then there's little hope in them succeeding in whatever it is they were trying to do.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013   Writer
it's just easier on everyone who thinks i'm an asshole because i hold a mirror up to them (and they don't like what they see) instead of actually acknowledging that THEY might be the problem... EZPZ

so yeah, thanks :hug:
cute avatar by the way
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LadyLincoln Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
"...Accountability is a bit of a business buzz word, but it's one that I use frequently because of the sense of ownership it comes with. In my opinion, every individual is accountable for their experience on here and if things are not working, stop blaming others! We're all vastly different, over opinionated, sometimes hypersensitive artists who come from all different backgrounds, education, religions and cultures- not everything works in one neat ring fence- this is why 'community' is such a broad term..."

Agreed upon, wholeheartedly!

Under "accountability," I should also like to place under it "hard work." If someone is not willing to make the effort to work hard to strive to do something [positive], then most likely will not see the results/feedback that they are hoping for. If members within the community endeavor for change -- they must also take the initiative to do so.

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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
Not all experiences need to be hard work though, there's plenty for the mildly lazy too but they have to wake up a bit and realise it doesn't come or wait for them!
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LadyLincoln Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Very true, indeed. :heart:
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013   Writer
:heart:
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EclecticQuill Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Student Writer
I love the opportunities. 

While getting constructive feedback from our peers and betters often proves a labour worthy of Herakles, I've found it to be a minor obstacle and one easily navigated if you're willing to put the effort in to overcome it. Opportunities present themselves everywhere on this site, and not just for feedback. I've learned a great deal just from observing other writers and through discussion with them. Engaging with other people is a great way to build a social circle of like minded friends within the larger community, and they can prove an invaluable source of criticism and feedback. Then there are the more tangible opportunities, such as competitions and prompts.
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
There's so much opportunity existing in the community, and lots of people that regular share and inform others of these. I dong know what else people want?
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EclecticQuill Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Student Writer
I think a lot of people don't really know what they want. Like the ones who complain about getting no constructive criticism, then complain about it not being an essay of praise when they do.
I agree that there's a lot of opportunity here, but you have to put some effort into finding and seizing it. You could do everything bar writing people's lit for them and some would still complain. 
I have achieved massive growth and publication, all with opportunities I found through dA, the rewards are there for those willing to work for them.
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SingingFlames Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer

Well put. :clap:


I love the T-rex. Poor guy. :giggle:


My favorite aspect of dA is the group system, and it's ability to connect us to so many other deviants we might not normally be exposed to (both with their deviations and our own). I've met some incredible individuals here because of the groups. But none of that would have happened if I hadn't taken the extra step to either comment on their work, or reply to their comments on mine. It takes a bit of effort, but the rewards are worth it. I've made some worthwhile friendships that way.

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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013   Writer
Groups have changed how people socialise on dA, with positives and negatives- it's frustrating to see good groups fall down because we're over populated by everyone wanting to "own" a group themselves and not future planning for that group. They involve a lot of effort and those who operate any group knows that.

But as you said, they're a brilliant way to get to know more individuals and make friends. :)
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SingingFlames Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
There's certainly an abundance of groups, many of which fizzle out. At least we're almost guaranteed to find a group for any niche interest we have. And, if not, there's the option of creating one (if the person interested has the time and perseverance to run that group). I've always appreciated that dA allows anyone to make a group; it's not limited to premium members, although they can run more. It's a wonderful opportunity. As you can probably tell, I'm very much pro-groups. =P
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Professional Writer
I love Emily's mom.
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Professional Writer
STEVE.  You WOULD love my mom.  She makes jam.
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Professional Writer
And she's no slouch with the cookies, either.
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Professional Writer
You're not kidding, there.
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Writer
Is she on Facebook?  Is there a dad in the scenario?  What are my chances?
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Professional Writer
Yes she's on Facebook.  And she has my dad wrapped around her finger.  So...chances not so good.  She likes things like bragging about 5ks and country radio.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm all for giving you dinosaurs, unlike ^Beccalicious  :P
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Writer
I'll take a whiskeysaurus rex.  No ice.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
But he's best on the rocks!
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Writer
But that's what killed them!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, shit!
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013   Writer
All other dinosaurs except rexy!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I suppose that's fair!
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BeccaJS Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013   Writer
You can't have her, she's mine.

You also can't have the T. Rex or ^neurotype.
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ndifference Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Professional Writer
Well...sez you!  May the best mother-lover win!
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CelestialMemories Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I've met these people unhappy about the lit community as well. I try to tell them that it's up to them to make their experience here on dA how they want it but if they don't want to listen that is their fault.

If there's something a person wants to see, it's up to them to make it happen.
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